tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post6715859624249896977..comments2023-09-11T10:07:46.666+01:00Comments on Linguistics Research Digest: Throwing light on language variationSuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05100573030401547729noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post-75190288901430482842013-01-12T01:21:14.947+00:002013-01-12T01:21:14.947+00:00Interesting typo by me there, in this context: &qu...Interesting typo by me there, in this context: "I'm sure you weren't intending to leave the out the Scots and the Welsh".<br /><br />Was I intending to write "leave out the Scots and the Welsh" or "leave the Scots and the Welsh out"? Hmm. Almost certainly the former, but this is more tricky than I thought. I'm certain that just what is meant by "leave out" comes into it:<br />* Leave out the butter = Omit the butter<br />* Leave the butter out = Don't put it in the fridge<br /><br />But if you add "of it" to the "omit" meaning of "leave out" then it has to come last: "Don't leave the Scots out of it".Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post-47359482008323403042013-01-11T17:42:57.522+00:002013-01-11T17:42:57.522+00:00I wonder which part of Haddican's and Johnson&...I wonder which part of Haddican's and Johnson's research findings it was that was "unexpected". It's certainly no surprise to me that people on this side of the Atlantic (*) should find versions 2) and 4) perfectly natural. <br /><br />Whilst 1) and 3) are by no means unintelligible, I WOULD find it very strange to hear someone say "put on the kettle" or "I've cut open my finger" instead of "put the kettle on" or "I've cut my finger open"...<br /><br />* I've lived in the UK for over 60 years, so I don't think it's got anything to do with immigration figures, Maher. BTW when you say "the English/Irish", I'm sure you weren't intending to leave the out the Scots and the Welsh! :-)Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post-43681156472066032442013-01-11T00:15:45.218+00:002013-01-11T00:15:45.218+00:00I'm from Australia and I'm with the Americ...I'm from Australia and I'm with the Americans: (1) and (3) sound more natural.<br /><br />All versions are essentially natural, but (1) and (3) seem more like casual description of events, whereas (2) and (4) seem to draw more attention to the acts they describe, emphasising them.Adrian Morganhttp://outerhoard.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post-53580802714896546782013-01-10T04:56:24.750+00:002013-01-10T04:56:24.750+00:00I'm from the UK and find 2 and 4 more natural,...I'm from the UK and find 2 and 4 more natural, even though I've lived in the US the last 15 years.vphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16647609487352038948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post-23434551776077211382013-01-09T23:35:54.039+00:002013-01-09T23:35:54.039+00:00I'm American and found that (1) and (3) were m...I'm American and found that (1) and (3) were more natural as well. Are both continuous and discontinuous forms grammatically correct? Is this phenomenon of interest because the way the English/Irish speak is changing? If so, why do you think this is? Can this change be attributed to the influx of immigrants in the UK?Mahinhttp://mahin.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post-51894263285880428752013-01-09T17:56:17.709+00:002013-01-09T17:56:17.709+00:00Interesting study. But indeed without some kind of...Interesting study. But indeed without some kind of diachronic analysis you can't really tell which variant (UK or USA) is changing.<br />LEOLeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16077987567636970527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1929284578930372562.post-73547248873826958992013-01-08T20:53:45.823+00:002013-01-08T20:53:45.823+00:00What if I liked 2 and 4 and I am from North Americ...What if I liked 2 and 4 and I am from North America, does that make me awesome?leoerishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14381650325597054569noreply@blogger.com